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than we or anyone would have liked to have seen, so we have confidence in that. >> on a conference call with reporters, jeff zients told reporters the difference between october 1st and december 1st is like night and day. >> response times are under one second. error rates are down well under 1%. and the system is stable with uptimes exceeding 90%. >> all right. so democrats, they're positive about these improvements. however, republicans say that the damage, it's already done. >> the website is improved vastly from where it was two months ago, and quite frankly where it is now is probably where it should have been two months before it launched. >> it's a hollywood facade. i mean it's a western and you get everybody shooting, but, you know, you just -- you push -- you push the wall over and there's not actually a saloon behind it. >> you never get a second chance
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to make a first impression, and the first impression here was terrible. and i think it's going to be an unfolding disaster for the president. >> we've broken the system to help a few. nobody would fix a problem that way. >> joining me right now is new york democratic congressman charlie rangel. sir, it's great to have you here. i want to start with this because we've got new numbers into nbc news where we've confirmed 100,000 americans successfully selected health insurance in the federal exchange in november. now, that's in comparison from the 27,000 that were able to do so in october. now we've got the site fixed. we see the numbers going up. you said earlier in november if i had the problem, saying you're sorry doesn't help me worth a damn at the polls unless i can staple your remarks on the ballot. so are you happy about this and do you think we need to staple president obama's remarks on your ballot? >> listen, i'm not the least bit concerned about the computers. i am so ecstatic that at long last our great country will be
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providing health care for everybody. it doesn't make any difference whether it's this week, next month or the month after. i'm saying my remarks were taken out of context. i said the president has nothing to apologize for. now, true, there are congress people that have taken this thing and there could be a big political issue for them. and saying you're sorry doesn't help. but for the 40 million people that have been begging and praying for being able to enroll in insurance, this is heaven. >> so these comments that you made in the middle of november, they were not directly in reaction to the president's "i'm sorry" message about the website? >> of course it was. anyone you say "i'm sorry" in politics it really doesn't count, unless you can get someone to pull down the lever, that's what counts. but i'm talking about listening to people talk about the computer. it's more difficult to get a motor vehicle license than it is to register for insurance. ever since the beginning, everyone said wouldn't it be
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great if everyone had insurance? how many horror stories do you remember, about people who have gotten to serious health situations and the insurance companies say i'm sorry, you had a precondition. >> well, there's so many americans that have faced a problem in their lives where they didn't realize they were just one tragedy away from actual bankruptcy but i want to play a clip of what david plouffe had to say over the weekend. take a listen to this. >> it may take until 2017 when this president leaves office. you're going to see almost every state in this country running their own exchanges and expanding medicaid and i think it will work really well then. >> he went on to say people trust this president. when you think of that timeline, 2017, does that sound palatable to you? >> no. at my age i don't buy green bananas. i'm concerned about this week, the next election. but i think he's right. true, people could have a political problem, say the president didn't tell the truth because he didn't say there are a million people out there with
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bum policies and once they find out what they got they'll change it. and so at the polls with the television 2345knocking the president, you know, if the president got up and walked on water, the tea party would say he can't swim. so it is a political problem. but you're right, if some young person finds out in 2017 he's got full coverage, the nation is better off. >> as we know, the supreme court is now going to be taking up the aca over the birth control issue, because on sunday, and this all comes out of one group that's gotten a lot of attention is the hobby lobby organization, a business that has religious objections to providing that kind of coverage. but we had cardinal dolan over the weekend on "meet the press" with david gregory talking about the catholic church's change in position. and not just where it stands on certain matters that are covered under the aca, but under obama care as a whole. take a listen. >> first of all, this isn't comprehensive because it's
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excluding the undocumented immigrant and it's excluding the unborn baby, so we begin to bristle at that. and secondly we said, and wait a minute, we who are pretty -- we catholics who are kind of among the pros when it comes to providing health care do it because of our religious conviction and because of the dictates of our conscience and now we're being asked to violate some of those. so that's when we began to worry and drawback and say mr. president, please, you're really kind of -- you're really kind of pushing aside some of your greatest supporters here. >> congressman, as a catholic do you agree with that? the cardinal went on to say they have been on the front end of this, i think he threw out 1919, trying to get our government to take up what it means to have health care in this country. but do you think that catholic supporters are going to hear the cardinal there and say, you know what, maybe i don't think so highly of obama care. >> i just hope that all supporters of all faiths listen to the pope. i think he's the most terrific voice that i've heard in my
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lifetime on questions of what christians and jews and mormons and that, is take care of the sick. take care of the aged. take care of our kids. stop the wars, stop the drones. i mean if we have to -- >> how does cardinal dolan match up with what you're saying about the pope. while you say you like pope francis, what do you think cardinal dolan is doing politically, because the pope has said we shouldn't get into politics so much but there's cardinal dolan on "meet the press" saying we don't like obama care anymore. >> the more the pope talks, the more the cardinals will understand it's god's will. unfortunately clergy people have to be concerned with their congregation. if we have the pope, we wouldn't have cuts in food stamps, we would have immigration, we would have health care, kids would be educated, we wouldn't have two million people locked up in jail and we wouldn't have drones destroying the lives of people that we don't know. god bless the pope. and i'm glad the cardinal hears
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him. i wish other religions would hear them, because there's a vacuum in congress. capitalism is the best thing in the world, but it's not set up to take care of the poor. >> congressman charlie rangel, great to have you here. i think you can easily invest in green ba nananabananas. thanks for your time. joining me now, editor of the "washington post" wonkblog, ezra klein. good to see you, buddy. it was a big weekend for the administration. now they're touting these big gains, coming out with nbc news being able to verify these numbers. 100,000 numbers successfully selected health insurance plans in november, up from the 27,000 in october. and we had jennifer palmieri speak to our chuck todd this morning. i want to play more about what she has to say about promoting this website. >> the question about what you're getting at, i think, is whether or not we're trying to drive traffic to the site and using different communications
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arms and insurers doing television advertising to do that. our view right now is we are not doing that because we don't need to do that in terms of driving traffic. >> so not doing that in terms of driving traffic. is this a more wait and see approach, a strategy that we're getting, ezra, from the white house about the website, the functions and how it's going toto encourage people and enroll people over the next few weeks or is this a set plan of kind of what public relations reset campaign is all about? >> oh, no, this plan to do the campaign was supposed to happen a couple of months ago now. what you're seeing there is a decision to try to move traffic to the website gradually. so the administration is sort of in context beginning to tell allies, beginning to tell influencers to try to get people to the website. the president will say it in speeches. kathleen sebelius said it to state and local officials. it's been on different mailing lists. but they don't want to do a major thing all at once because fundamentally the website has made big strides but it is not
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yet fixed. it is true it is up more than 90% of the time, but if you were dealing with major retail websites, basically the lowest uptime they have is 99.4%. the website ain't there yet. then you have all those back-end fungsds like transmitting data correctly to the insurers, like giving people the correct eligibility determination to see what their subsidy would be and those are a little bit problematic so they have to be careful not to put too many people there before the back-end things are fixed. >> republicans are predicting that 80% of americans with employer-provided insurance who are not affected by the health care law are soon going to see themselves booted off those plans has employers decide to push employees into health exchanges. is that a real danger that americans should be worried about or is this just another fear tactic, something that the gop is using to scare people? >> at the moment i think this is just a big fear tactic. right now i have insurance through the washington post. they don't have to do anything. they don't have to give me a dollar of insurance. the affordable care act, the
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main change it makes is actually they would have to pay money if they didn't give me insurance so it becomes a more costly proposition for them to stop giving me insurance. the republican argument is it making it harder for employers to stop giving insurance, will mean more of them do it. it's an odd look at it. the best evidence we have on this coming out of the massachusetts reforms, which are very similar to obama care which also have a very similar kind of employer mandate, they have had no employer dropoff. in fact more employers are offering insurance than ever. so our lived experience doesn't quite back it up. >> ezra klein, great to see you today. thank you, sir. that brings us to today's big question for you. do you think that the problems with obama care are over now that the website is on the mend? weigh in on twitter and facebook. some of your responses have already come in. we appreciate that. and we want to go back to that breaking news that we told you about last hour. in toledo, ohio, a 14-year-old boy is now in custody after reports of a gunman inside a high school. the superintendent telling nbc news the suspect was holed up by himself in a classroom at scott
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high school. police say that gunman had a pellet gun. officials say no students were ever in jeopardy and students are expected to be released soon to their parents. developing news now, the ntsb is saying investigators plan to conduct interviews today or tomorrow with the engineer an conductor of the train involved in a deadly derailment in new york city. federal officials say they have successfully removed some data from two black boxes recovered from the train over the weekend. four people were killed. more than 60 were injured when their commuter train spun off the tracks while taking a sharp turn in the bronx. among the dead, donna smith known for her volunteer work and dedication to charity and 58-year-old jim level, an audio technician for nbc's "today" show. survivors of the crash describe the chaos. >> as we were going over, i looked at my two -- i screamed at my two friends that we're going over. i just -- i couldn't believe it, i was in shock. >> it was -- when it went around
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the curve, i mean i actually looked up. i knew something was -- it was going way too fast. >> there was screaming and people crying out to god and asking for their families. it was pretty gruesome. >> nbc's kristen dahlgren is live at the scene for us. kristen, it seems as if all arrows are pointing to the speed for investigators to look at when it comes to how that train was navigating the turn. >> reporter: yeah, it does. and what it may come down to in the investigation, thomas, is the black boxes. they have now been recovered from the front and the rear cars of that train. they'll be sent to washington, d.c., where that data will be downloaded and analyzed. and from that they should get more information about how fast it was going and whether or not the brakes were hit as it went around this turn. take a look, though, at some new video that we've obtained. this is home video taken really just in the minutes after the crash. it shows just a massive rescue operation under way. the train operator in those
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minutes after told the mta investigators that he did what's called dumping the brakes. that the normal braking system wasn't working so he tried this emergency procedure in which you hit all of the emergency brakes on all of the cars at the same time. remember, this is a curve where he would have had to have reduced the speed from 70 to 30 miles per hour. here's what the governor had to say about that on the "today" show this morning. >> i think it is going to be speed-related. this was a tricky turn on the system, but it's a turn that's been here for decades and trains negotiate all day long, so it's not about the turn. i think it's going to turn out to be about the speed more than anything, and the operator's operation of the train at that time. >> reporter: now, the ntsb hopes to conduct its own interviews with the engineer and the conductor in the next day or so, so they should have some more
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information. right now they're using this huge crane to pick those cars back up, put them on the track. that will also give them better access, thomas, so they can complete their investigation here. >> kristen dahlgren reporting for us. thank you. raw amotion from actor tyrese beggibson as he gifts th site where his friend paul walker was killed in a horrific car crash over the weekend. still ahead what investigators say may have played a role in that tragic accident. plus the rnc now back tracking on a tweet attempting to honor rosa parks' historic arrest. just how hard is it really working to reach out to the african-american community in this country? the agenda panel weighs in on that. first, the florida woman who got a 20-year sentence for firing what she says is a warning shot at her abusive husband is out on bond. i'm going to talk to one of the lawyers who helped her get that new trial next. [ paper rustles, outdoor sounds ]
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a florida woman awaiting a new trial on a controversial stand your ground case is free on bond. marissa alexander was released from jail on thanksgiving eve. it was last year that she was given a mandatory 20-year prison 17 e 17 sentence for what she insisted was a warning shot to her husband. the judge threw out her self defense claim saying alexander could have run out of the house to escape her husband but instead got the gun and went back inside. in september an appeals court ruled that the judge gave improper jury instructions and a new trial has been set for next year. joining me now is kerry mclean, a member of free marissa now. kerry, let's just be clear, you are not currently representing marissa alexander, but you are familiar with her case and also, again, a part of the organization that is free marissa now. >> absolutely. >> so let's get into how you understand marissa is doing. she was released, again, over
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the thanksgiving holiday. how is she faring right now? >> i spoke with her mother over the weekend, and her mother said that at this point marissa is trying to process just not being behind bars after being behind bars for almost three years. and she has three children, twins, okay, who are not connected with rico gray. they're not the children of rico gray. >> which is the estranged husband. >> yeah. so she's seeing them, they're at the house and spending time with them and reconnecting with them. she actually feels as if she's getting to know them again because she's been away from them for so long. she also has a 3-year-old who is the child of rico gray. she -- over the weekend she had not seen the 3-year-old yet, so that's something that she's working on. >> so in the backstory here, marissa alexander fired this bullet at a wall in 2010 to scare off this husband. they had had a violent marriage, where there were charged and arrests against her husband, correct? >> yes. >> for showing violent
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tendencies. but the 20 years in prison, this was by state law that the jury was bound. >> mandatory minimums. >> the judge said that he was bound by state law to sentence her to 20 years in prison after she was convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. so how much of this case from a legal perspective is based on the fact that she was literally sent up the river for the wrong thing? >> you know, i think that there are a few different issues at play. i think this case highlights what's wrong with mandatory minimum sentencing and there are a lot of groups and even politicians that are trying to change these laws. this is a perfect example of how these laws can just work so incorrectly and not work the way perhaps the people who wrote them wanted them to. another issue is this is a woman who is a survivor of domestic violence and here she is i'd say
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being revictimized, being treated as the aggressor when she was merely trying to defend herself. i mean what does it say about our justice system? >> justice delayed is justice denied. so how much pressure does this put on the courts for her to get a fair trial coming up next year? >> i have to tell you, i think all around the country, people have been surprised at the way that things have gone in jacksonville, florida, concerning this case. i hope that this outpouring from around the country and even outside of the country will cause the judge, the people involved to reconsider what they're doing. i'll be frank with you, the free marissa now campaign, we're hoping that the trial won't even happen. >> kerry, great to have you here. thanks for your time. >> thank you. new details coming out of the investigation into the fiery crash that killed "fast & furious" star paul walker. up next, what investigators say may have been a factor. also on a different note a
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hollywood mega donor promises to back hillary clinton with all his might if she decides to run in 2016 for the white house, calling her the natural successor to president obama. is it a given? this is up for debate with today's agenda panel. plus -- >> this feels great. that someone is a guy. >> olympic diver tom daly makes a major announcement about his personal life, something that took him by surprise. details ahead. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses.
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police say that speed may have been a factor in that fiery crash that killed paul walker and his friend over the weekend in southern california. witnesses say walker was at a charity event when he and a friend drove off in a red porsche. minutes later a loud explosion and smoke rising from the street. joe fryer reports from valencia, california. >> reporter: tyrese gibson said
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nothing as he wiped away tears and clutched yellow flowers meant for paul walker. it's not the way stories about hollywood good guys are supposed to end. >> i felt it in my heart, something was wrong. >> reporter: jim said walker and his friend took a red porsche out for a drive saturday afternoon. >> we have one vehicle fully involved. >> reporter: he said friends ran toward the scene of the fiery single car crash. >> they tried everything they could to get him out of the car and they couldn't. there was nothing they could do. >> reporter: walker's publicist confirmed what's posted on the star's facebook page, that the 40-year-old actor was a passenger in the car. investigators say speed might be a factor. it's both tragic and ironic, as walker is best known for "fast & furious" the blockbuster racing movie franchise. >> to be a part of something that spanned this kind of time, it feels really good. >> reporter: the cast frequently appeared on "today," most recently in pay. >> we've been forced together more or less now for a long time. and as a result, cool things
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have happened. >> reporter: on social media, costar vin diesel posted brother, i will miss you very much. i'm absolutely speechless. >> everyone always described him as a very humble guy who was very appreciative for all the success that had come his way from the "fast & furious" franchise. >> reporter: on the day he died he was attending a fund-raiser for his disaster relief organization, reach out worldwide. he posted a video urging fans to help the philippines. >> there are times when you've got to check yourself. >> that was nbc's joe fryer reporting. walker and his costars were in production for the seventh "fast & furious" movie. here's a look at some of the stories topping the news now for you. at least two people are in custody in connection with a homicide at kansas city's arrowhead stadium. police say the fight started in the parking lot after the chiefs/broncos game last night. witnesses say a man in his 20s was caught breaking into a car. when he was confronted by the owner, he collapsed during the struggle. 16 years after being convicted of killing an
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8-month-old baby, former british nanny louise woodward is pregnant. in 1997 you may recall she was 19 when she was found guilty of violently shaking a baby under hur care in boston. woodward is now 35 years old, married and living in the united kingdom. 56-yarder. it's got -- no, it does not have the leg. and chris davis takes it in the back of the end zone. he'll run it out to the 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 45, there goes davis! >> oh, my god! >> davis is going to run it all the way back! auburn is going to win the football game! auburn is going to win the football game! he ran the missed field goal back! he ran it back 109 yards! they're not going to keep them off the field tonight! holy cow! oh, my god! auburn wins! auburn has won the iron bowl! >> holy cow is right. that is quite possibly the greatest ending to a college football game ever in the last seconds of the game. it was all tied up, auburn's
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over? an rnc tweet sparking a lot of controversy this morning. those are the topics for our agenda panel. we have corey dade joining us, molly ball, national political reporter for the atlantic and victoria defrancesco soto, an msnbc and nbc latino contributor. gang, happy monday to you. molly, i want to start with you on this because it was in an interview with democratic mega donor, long time hillary clinton backer, ian saban describing a growing consensus that hillary is obama's natural successor. he said that he'd pitch in with his full might if she launches a 2016 campaign. is this hillary clinton has already decided and big donors know it or big donors are trying to get her to decide? >> i think it's the latter. i don't think that even behind the scenes she has made a decision but she has notably not said no, so there is a feel that if she wanted to tamp all this down, she could. she's not doing that.
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she's clearly at the very least keeping her options open. meanwhile this juggernaut is forming behind her. you have saban, a lot of other big donors getting on board. you've got the super pac that is forming behind her. and so the democrats really want to ensure that when or if she does get in, it is hard to imagine her saying no now, now that all this stuff has been built or that is the hope of the people building it. >> victoria, people speculate if hillary clinton puts her hat in the ring and then joe biden decides, it puts the president in a tough spot. politico has an article on how the 2016 fever is testing the hillary clinton/obama bond. obama needs the party's attention devoted to helping him salvage the final three years of his administration but democratic donors and activists say the growing anticipation around a possible clinton administration three years out could accelerate the president's arrival at lame duck status. the more obama is viewed as a has been, the harder it could be to rally the party to fight for his agenda.
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do you agree with that analysis, victoria? >> you know, thomas, i think all of this talk about hillary might be a moot point come 2016. right now she is the candidate to beat. but we don't know what the mood of the american public is going to be in the next three years. a lot of that is going to depend on how we view the trust in government. it's near an all-time low. the pew study showed only 19% of us believe that washington is doing the right thing. so if we come to that spot and americans want someone who knows washington, then we're going to naturally see hillary emerge. if we want another outsider, then hillary is going to fall off so i think it's way too soon to say hillary will be the public's choice. >> meanwhile we saw the president sit down with barbara walters of abc to talk about trust in the government and recognizing his low poll numbers. take a look. >> every president in their second term is, you know, mindful that you've only got a limited amount of time left and you want to make sure that you
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are squeezing every last ounce of energy that you have to try to deliver on the commitments you made to the american people. >> limited amount of time here, corey. so the president recognizes he only has a little bit of time left before the party does need to ramp up to figure out who could potentially take the white house after him, who is best suited to do that. so how does he maneuver the hillary speculation with his own agenda? >> i think he's going to stay as far from the hillary speculation as he can, because we have joe biden, the vice president of course, who's considering a run. but he's going to try to keep this democratic coalition together in his party for as long as possible, because when it starts to thin out and members of the democratic party establishment start to pick which candidates they are going to get behind, that means the attention shifts away from the president's agenda and he can't afford that. he has immigration, he still has probably future fixes to obama care that they'll have to deal with. to the extent that he can keep that coalition together as long
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as possible into 2015, it not only helps his legacy but it also helps the democratic brand. >> all right, guys, i want to switch gears to talk about branding and the gop for that matter because the republican efforts to reach out to minorities and enhance their brand hit another snag yesterday. about 10:00 a.m. the republican national committee tweeted a photo of rosa parks marking the 58th anniversary of her refusal to give up her seat on a bus in montgomery, alabama. the caption on that said today we remember rosa parks' bold stand and her role in ending racism. then about three hours later the rnc clarified saying it should have read today we remember rosa parks' bold stand and her role in fighting to end racism. this morning the rnc pointed out to us that their statement released by reince priebus says we remember and honor rosa parks today for the role she played in fighting racism and ending segregation. so, molly, this is -- i mean
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obviously they wanted to be thoughtful in making remarks, but it seems as if they're trying to clean up a little too much over making that thoughtful remark. >> well, you know, the republicans know and they have said multiple times in things like their autopsy report that they have got to make the party more appealing to minorities, and they are clearly trying. the original tweet was an attempt to show that they are trying. and then they sort of stepped in it. i think it's clear, number one, that they don't know how to talk about race. there's a sort of cluelessness every time they step out into this arena. i think that that's a byproduct of the fact that there's clearly not enough diversity in the republican ranks to have had someone at the controls before that tweet went out who could have spotted that problem and said, hey wait, this doesn't reflect this lovely and constructive statement that we have made, let's make this more nuanced. >> so that tweet set off a firestorm spawning a #racism ended when. the democratic national campaign
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committee got in on the tweeting saying racism ended when republicans stopped congress from fixing the voting rights act. so corey, let me ask you, first, is racism over? and if so is the gop branding issue not a problem? >> you know, maybe it was an honest mistake, but i might create my own new hash tag called #can't get right. i think they can't get race right and the reason they can't is part of their ideology is based on the notion that racism doesn't exist in the proportions that people of color and liberals sort of suggest that it does. so the reason why they have a problem addressing issues important to people of color is because, you know, it is what they do. it is a tiny issue, this tweet, but it really speaks volumes about the fact that they are hamstrung for the next
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perceptible future. >> victoria, this goes into -- it has, you know, reaches into all areas of diversity for the gop when they're looking at and they are consciously aware of the fact that they are lacking when it comes to the african-american community, the latino community and lbgt community because they have cornered themselves in on certain positions that aren't palatable to equality. >> absolutely, thomas. and what we're seeing is not necessarily an end of racism regrettably, we're seeing a different type of racism. we're going from a more explicit type to implicit type. and also because our society has changed where multi ethnic, multi racial society so we're seeing the manifestations of racism and anti-group affect toward lbgt communities, toward foreigners, especially after 9/11, and toward latinos and undocumented people. sadly, it's not an end, it's just a change. >> gang, we'll leave it there, thanks so much. the root's corey dade, molly
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daughter. we know the one hand, the angry exes who give away content but explain how hackers, like the situation that happened to your daughter, were able to get these compromising photos. >> well, the hacker with respect to my daughter and with respect to hundreds of people throughout the country, he was basically gaining access through facebook. he would get into somebody's facebook account and then get into their e-mail account. and he was being paid by hunter moore for photos. i mean that's what hunter moore has publicly said, that he pays hackers for these photos. so people are being humiliated, hurt, the people on the website then harass the particular individual who's a victim on the site and try to get her fired from her job, trying to ruin her life essentially. so it's really a horrendous thing that happened. >> it really is. a lot of parents need to be aware of this as we continue to raise more kids who are tech savvy or who are learning to be tech savvy. i know that you helped get a law passed in california to protect
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victims of the revenge porn industry and there's also an fbi investigation currently pending right now. what would you tell people who are going through something similar right now how they can protect themselves and then also for your daughter's example, how they can overcome when something happens like this to them? >> well, you have to really be vigilant as far as going after these websites. it's very difficult. what we need to do mainly is to push for legislation and what we need is federal legislation. i'm very encouraged because this issue has really gotten out there and so many people are aware of it now and we have legislators in various states who have proposed legislation, new york and wisconsin and kansas and maryland and i've been talking to barbara boxer's office about bringing something forth for the entire country which would be excellent. first of all, it would be consistent from state to state and, second of all, you could get around section 230 of the communications decency act which currently protects the website operator. so under state law, you can only
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go after the person who submits the photo, if you get a state law passed. but a federal law, you could do a lot more to really protect regular people from this horrendous crime that's being committed against them. >> cyber protection activist and diligent mom, charlotte laws. great to have you on, thanks for your time. we'll be right back after this. got all the cozies. [ grandma ] with new fedex one rate, i could fill a box and ship it for one flat rate. so i knit until it was full. you'd be crazy not to. is that nana? [ male announcer ] fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex.
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met someone. they make me feel so happy, so safe. everything just feels great. and that someone is a guy. >> big news from british diving star tom daley admitting he's happy, in a committed relationship and it happened to be with a man. the 19-year-old bronze medalist goes on to say he's the same person and can't wait to compete for gold in the 2016 summer olympics in rio. meanwhile, months away from winter olympics in soichi russia. that country known for passing arch laws, preventing the lgtb community itself to show support with rainbow flags. now, two organizations may have found a clever way to get around these laws even allowing fans and athletes to visibly take a stand against them.
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the campaign is called principle 6. here to tell us is the founder and director hudson taylor and co-founder and executive director of all-out, andre banks. here you've got your principle 6 shirts on. lets talk about what principle 6 is. explain how you were able to utilize principle 6 in a way that talks about the propaganda law in a more thoughtful way. >> principle 6 is inspired by principle 6 of the olympic charter which talks about the value of anti-discrimination what we thought was lets give athletes, coaches, fans, people around the world a way to celebrate the value and not violate anti-russia gay laws, rules but make this positive stance in soichi and ahead of soichi. >> why do you think it's critical for those who feel strongly against what's going on in russia now to have a visible way like through these shirts or
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through these hats to be able to show that type of support at the olympics. we know because of the propaganda laws and issues, people were trepidatious? >> this is a time to speak out, tom daley being an example. we know there are athletes hole be competing at the olympic. this an opportunity to show support for those athletes especially in the wake of the law that's directly pointing them out, directly putting them in harm's way. by supporting them we can use principle 6 to support lgtb russian community because we know the games are going to come and go. there's going to be a population of people still affected by these laws. the hope is to use principle 6 to support athletes at the games, also to support in russia. >> realistically we've seen
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homophobic violence erupt in russia since the passing of these laws over the summer. andre, how is wearing a shirt like that or hat or article that says principle 6 on it not a target to say pick on me or a target to somebody who would disagree with that person wearing that article of clothing? >> sure. this is not a political statement, this is about principles of the principles we're standing up for is anti-discrimination and basic values of olympic movement. what we hope to see in soichi is many different people, athletes, lgtb and otherwise, who want to make the statement, want to stand up and speak out. >> real quickly, athletes who agreed, hudson, to wear the gear are? >> we have almost 34 athletes that have joined the campaign, many of which would like to show support for principle 6 at the games. it's not clear where they would be allowed to do so. we know there's a growing movement of people speaking out on principle
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6 in soichi. >> real quick, where do you get the gear if they want it? >> principle 6.org. find out more about the campaign, how you can get involved and speak out. >> thanks, wish you the best of luck to that. the question today, do you think problems with the obama care website are now over? and obama care in general because of the internet being fixed for them. tom saying the website is indeed working better, although the problems with aca will not be completely fixed until the right stops sack to thissing it. >> renee says, i have $1200 more for maternity care i will ever use at 51. >> yes, i can't wait until everyone who says it will not work are proven wrong. the conversation continues on twitter and facebook. that wraps it up for me. alex wagner coming your way next. hi, alex. >> hey, thomas, the white house unveils the revamped aca. will it get a clean bill of health? former white house secretary
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robert gibbs weighs in on rollout 2.0. plus hospitals across the country are shuttered or on the brink of disclosure because of the medicaid, we will walk you through the states of disgrace. we'll speak with the director of "everybody's street" all that when "now" starts right after the break. ah speak to customer service, check on a claim...you know, all with the ah, tap of my geico app. oh, that's so cool. well, i would disagree with you but, ah, that would make me a liar. no dude, you're on the jumbotron! whoa. ah...yeah, pretty much walked into that one. geico anywhere anytime. just a tap away on the geico app. ♪
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vast majority of americans. it's monday december 2nd and this is "now." call it mission in progress. the white house says healthcare.gov is now stable 90% of the time and has achieved its
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goals albeit late of being able to satisfy 50,000 simultaneous users. >> the bottom line, healthcare.gov on december 1st is night and day from where it was on october 1st. >> a palpable sense of relief after weeks of worry the mood in the war room where the repair work is ongoing was good and upbeat. technicians ended saturday night with a group high five, which is the way i end most saturday nights. good news in the way of enrollment numbers. bloomberg 100,000 people signed up for health insurance through the exchange a four fold increase from october. if the white house thought any of this would elicit anything but criticisms from the other side of the aisle, that's another program. >> i don't know how you fix it. i don't know how you fix a program in this manner with

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